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Tue, 01/10/2012 - 12:13pm  
Dena RandallHello.  We are a General Contractor currently using Timberline.  We are exploring new all encompasing Construction Software.  I am interesting in hearing what other General Contractors are using and the pro's and con's of those systems.
Tue, 06/12/2012 - 4:30pm #1
Jessica Carosello

Have you checked out Maxwell Systems ProContractorMX Complete?  It can be purchased individually - accounting, estimating, or project management, or can be an all-in-one complete software system.  It reduces double data entry and time, improves efficiency, streamlines your construction management processes, and more.

If you'd like more information about the product, I can get you in touch with a sales rep.  Let me know!

-Jess

http://www.maxwellsystems.com/
products/complete_solution/procontractormx

Fri, 06/08/2012 - 10:33am #2
Beth Skerrett

Kimberely,

I apologize for the late response,but if you are still evaluating software, I would recommend you look at Maestro Software.  It is a fully integrated Project and accounting system.

If you are interested I can send you some information to review.

Beth Skerrett

Fri, 06/08/2012 - 10:28am #3
Beth Skerrett

Hi Dena,

My  company represents a software product called "MAESTRO" and we have a full suite of products for General Contractors, including Estimating, Document Management, Issue Management, Change Order management,  and all of the accounting modules that support that structure

I would be delighted to send you an overview brochure if you are interested.  Drop me an email at beth@teammsa.com

Fri, 06/08/2012 - 9:22am #4
Peter Lowry

Dena,

Viewpoint is a very good software for GCs.  I am the controller for 2 offices of a $200MM GC, and I think very highly of it.  I implamented it across our company, and while there is a lot of learn, Project Managers and admin staff come to really appreciate all it can do.  Feel free to contact me at plowry@csigc.com if you would like to discuss further.

Fri, 06/08/2012 - 8:24am #5
L. Benen Your Timberline application can handle your WIP issue.  I would highly recommend getting in touch with your Sage Timberline Business Partner for some assistance.  If you do not know who that is please let me know and I will find out for you.  Good luck.
Wed, 06/06/2012 - 6:55pm #6
Bryan Duncan I have been in the Engineering and construction world for 15 yrs.  I have used Timberline, but there really is no WIP schedule in Timberline and it easily became out of balance between GL and Job Cost.  I currently use, unfortunately a product call Coins/Shaker.  I would not wish this on our worst enemies but it is what i am stuck with.  I have also used JD Edwards and found it very good, however, it is mainly a high end / dollar amt solution.  I am told that Viewpoint is very good for job/project costing, however it is very lacking in the ancilliary modules such as HR and Equip tracking.  I have also heard some good things about the Dexter and Chaney product but have no experience with it.  If you can find a product that guarantees that your GL and Job Cost modules will remain in balance, that will be a huge useful victory.  I am sure it exists, just haven't had opportunity to research.  I can be reached at bduncan@wayholding.com   Good Luck
Wed, 06/06/2012 - 7:43am #7
John Jankowski Currently using ComputerEase, anyone else have any experience good/bad with this software at a subcontractor?
Tue, 06/05/2012 - 7:58am #8
Bruce Guard We are a $150 million Engineering, Construction and Fabrication company.  We switched to Viewpoint 1/1/2011, and after the initial pain of conversion, we are very happy.  Our PM's also compliment the programs.  Viewpoint should be one of your considerations in my opinion.  You can contact me at bruce.guard@robertscompany.com if you wish to discuss.
Mon, 04/23/2012 - 11:14am #9
Jack Biven

In this email string, I noticed some software I was not familiar with.  I searched the web for one of the names and happened accross this site.

I downloaded their kit, but havent' evaluated it; but it looks like it could be very helpful in a software search.

http://www.ctsguides.com/construction

Fri, 04/20/2012 - 7:15pm #10
Jenny Emmenegger

I apologize for such a late response on this however, I see no one mentioned AccuBuild COnstruction software. I have been using for 13 years and is the most integrated system Ive seen on the market. From Payroll, Job Cost, Scheduling, Document Management, Purchase Orders, the list goes on. They have recently launched a mobile app were it allows employees to electronically submit payroll directly in to the system. It has cut our payroll process in half is not more. 

 Jenny

Wed, 01/18/2012 - 8:01pm #11
Ann Sims Hi Dena & Kimberly, Have you looked at Maxwell Systems?  Maxwell Systems ProContractorMX is an all-in-one complete solution featuring estimating, accounting, and project management, or can be purchased individually to meet your needs.  This is an award winning program that works well for contractors in all different specialties and sizes, and like Laura Kaye mentioned above, over 10K contractors are using it. Here's more details on ProContractorMX: http://www.maxwellsystems.com/
products/complete_solution/procontractormx
 If you would like more information, please email Jessica at marketing@maxwellsystems.com  or call 800.688.8226 ext 1.
Wed, 01/18/2012 - 5:22pm #12
Beverly Pena We use a construction software called A-Systems Jobview.  The company that designs and sells this software is a small company out of Salt Lake City, Utah.  They have been in business since around 1978.  I have been using their software since 2000 and they are a great company to work with.  If you need support, your call is answered immediately and you are helped right then.  They also have user conferences every 6 months that are very helpful.  It is more like a roundtable workshop where users can learn features of the software, give their input of changes that they would like to see, and see how others are solving their accounting needs in the construction industry.  The best part is that they listen and incorporate ideas that are beneficial.  There are 3 updates to the software every year.  The software is very affordable and the maintenance fee is low.  Check them out at www.a-systems.net.
Wed, 01/18/2012 - 1:24pm #13
Kevin Halme

Dena,

We are a smaller ($10M) street & utility construction company.  We switched from Maxwell American Contractor to Viewpoint in June of 2007.  The implementation of Viewpoint brought in new processes and new management of our finance department, which has made our financial information very strong.  However, we are currently in the process of evaluating a different solution for equipment management as our users struggle with the Accounting system feel of the integrated system.  We also have been using a separate solution for job tracking/electronic timecards.  Sending the timecards to accounting is a 3 minute process when the setup is correct, but the usability for the field managers is excellent.  So, they actually use it, learn it, and enjoy it!  I think the 3-minute process on a weekly basis is well worth the benefits of the separate system.

We have determined that end user functionality and ease-of-use is more important than full integration.  How important is it that estimating and accounting are fully integrated?  In our opinion, it is a one-time import of the budget to accounting from estimating.  That takes all of about 5-10 minutes, so is it worth using a "half-way" estimating program to save the time of importing the estimate?  Every company has different processes and workflows, but don't over estimate the benefits of having all encompassing systems.  I think it's like telling all of the field guys to use a "Swiss Army Knife" or "Leatherman" rather than carrying a set of tools.  There are times that full integration is important, but most of the time the processes can be changed to allow different software packages to better meet the needs of different departments and have imports/exports designed to handle the integration that is required. 

All of that said, don't short yourself in implementation.  A fully-integrated system or manual integrated system need to be implemented to do any good.  Pay for the training & consulting and get it set up right in the first place.  I would say the most important factor in your consideration should be the software support and development history.  Good support makes a huge difference, ask for references and seek out your own on this forum.

Feel free to contact me if you want to discuss this more.

Kevin

Wed, 01/18/2012 - 11:15am #14
Laura Kaye

The Timberline & Viewpoint products are good. However Viewpoint has no Take Off & Estimating in their package. They rely on 3rd party estimates.  Timberline has it all however their Office platform is outdated. You should check into Maxwell Systems, ProContractor. This is built on the latest SQL .Net environment it handles take off, estimating, project management, & financial management. It is the only solution of its kind on the market utilizing iPads for mobile project management. Maxwell has been offering construction software for 35 years, and has over 10,000 contractors using it.

www.maxwellsystems.com

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 7:33pm #15
Thomas Lowrey You should also look at Spectrum from Dexter+Chaney. They have a full suite of products and a new explorer based version that will be out later this year. They work well with Bid2Win and HCSS also if you use one of those for your estimating.
Mon, 01/16/2012 - 6:29pm #16
Bob Griffith

We have been in the construction software arena for 30+ years and would like to share an observation that you may want to take to heart.  Construction companies have for the most part not taken seriously the desireability of a fully integrated enterprise wide system.  Common, even in the 21st century, is the situation where estimating is not integrated with accounting as if the estimating and bidding function is unrelated to the information once the job is won and underway.  We originally became involved with Timberline and later Sage Master Builder because the solutions were and still are the best uniquely integrated solutions available.  You should consider no other than Sage Timberline and Sage master Builder..

Mon, 01/16/2012 - 4:03pm #17
L. Belen Dena, I am a Sage BP that works with many contractors in evaluating their needs and defining the applications that best fit them.  I visit my customers periodically and often find that although they may be very good users of the software they many times are not up to date on all the improvements and applications available to them.  This may be due to turnover in help, technology changes or new enhancements they did not capitalize on when the new releases first came out.  Today many du business differently than when they implemented their system but they are not aware that their software can flex with them as well.  As some others have indicated making a change to something new is very expensive in time and money and sometimes very painful.  I would suggest that you ask your Timberline Business Partner to come and do an audit of what you have and how you are using it and help identify things you may want to change or other applications that could now help address the voids you feel you are experiencing.  You may likely find there are solutions with the system you already have that will address those areas of need and with much less cost and pain.  The Timberline system is one of the best in the industry (my bias sorry, but factual) so make sure you explore this completely as well.  Good luck to you.
Mon, 01/16/2012 - 3:32pm #18
Kimberely Preiss We are a subcontractor also looking for new software.  Primarily we are looking at Viewpoint and Timberline (but if someone knows of another we should look at....?)  We wish to have an integrated system between Accounting, Project Management, Job Scheduling, Estimating, and Sales (Bid thru Sold).  I look forward to keeping an eye on this thread for ideas and comment.
Mon, 01/16/2012 - 12:31pm #19
Jack Hauck

We've been using Timberline for quite some time and feel that it satisfies our needs very well.  While it is a bit of a legacy program, it's very stable and reliable.  

In your analysis, do not underestimate the amount of time and sweat requried for a conversion!  Don't let any software salesperson minimize either the cost, effort or time required for a conversion.  At our office, there was a need to convert to a new data folder and while it was fairly straight forward, it was a demanding procedure.  Not something I'd care to repeat anytime soon!

I'm sure that you realize that while a new program may address something lacking in your current setup, rest assured that you'll find something lacking with any new program.

So my suggestion is that while you might eventually go with a new program, include in your analysis if Timberline is able to perform as you would like it to.  This would probably involve bringing in a top-level consultant with plenty of experience in customization.

Best of luck in your software decision. 

Jack Hauck/Red Point Development

Fri, 01/13/2012 - 2:34pm #20
Steven Shipp we went live with Viewpoint on Jan 2, 2012.  you may call me 513-861-8866 and i will tell you what we have and are going through. installation took 5 months and now the learning curve.
Thu, 01/12/2012 - 9:19pm #21
Brian Cresap We are a $100M year GC and we have been using Viewpoint Construction Software for a little over two years now and are extremely happy with it. The implimentation takes some work but the end results are definately worth it. The accounting side of the system is excellent. They recently upgraded their project management portion of the system and from what we have seen so far if is a pretty good system. Viewpoint also seems to be more focused on the needs of the GC than other companies are. If you have any specific questions feel free to contact me directly at brianc@mandsinc.com
Wed, 01/11/2012 - 11:08pm #22
Todd Rakowski

Dena -  We currently use Viewpoint Const for our Accounting & Project Management processes & have been very pleased with their product & the support provided.  Timberline was one of the products that we looked at when we previously did a conversion in 2005.   The only area we struggle slightly with Viewpoint in is with adapting it to our projection needs for contracts done on a cost + fee basis with a GMP.   My controller previously worked for another GC that utilized Timberline if you would be interested in a compare & contrast.

Todd

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 1:27pm #23
Heather Harlan

Ms. Randall, I am with an independant software and consulting company called Event 1 Software.  Prior to focusing on Excel-based productivity enhancing software, distributed cost forecast software and integration software (i.e. Integrator for Prolog Manager and Sage Timberline Office) our founders ran the largest independant consulting company specializing in Timberline Office implementations.

If your heart is set on searching for and selecting new software, there are many fine solutions out there.  When we consulted directly for businesses like yours we understood that the cost of evaluating, selecting and implementing a new solution is very high. 

Without more information we couldn't advise you whether your current system could be configured more effectively for your organization or if you are using all of the appropriate productivity enhancing technologies available for your current system.

For example, we created the only successfully implemented "best of breed" integration product for Meridian Prolog Manager and Sage Timberline Office.  We have over 80 companies using this soluiton, many of which are General Contractors.  We are unaware of any other technology that has this kind of integration.

In addition, we created a very popular and effective Excel-based distributed cost forecasting solution in 1996.  Perhaps the people who implemented your current system were unaware of these and other productivity enhancing technologies availble for Sage Timberline Office.  I'm sure other vendors have excellent solutions as well.

If you are interested in learning more about whether you using your current software as effectively as you could be, please feel free to contact us.  You can reach me by emailing me at heatherh@event1software.com

We wish you success regardless how you decide to proceed.

- Heather

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 11:43am #24
David Koczera

Hello Dena,

Can you tell me if as a General Contractor does your company also do self perform work?  Also, can you share with me the approximate size (Gross Revenues) wise of the company. 

 I work for a Software Consulting firm related to the Oracle Family of products. We specialize in Construction Industry solutions.  One popular solution is the JD Edwards Application Product line.  However, there are many factors that would need to be identified in order to decide if this comprehensive system is appropriate for your company. I can help point you in the right direction other wise.

I would be happy to answer any questions you have. My office number is 303 942 0594. I office out of Golden Co. 

Thanks

Dave Koczera.

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 11:37am #25
Peter Lowry I am the controller for a $300MM GC and we are very happy with Viewpoint.  Brent Kuenzi is a good contact 971-255-4800.  If you are interested in more info, please write me at plowry@csigc.com.